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Updating Template:Episode[]

User:Jazzi/Sandbox/7 I've condensed the Episode template so that it only includes the information that is informative about the episode information. The rest of the information can, and should be included in the article and only in the article, not the infobox as that'll just make it cluttered. Personally, I think this works out the best and we can reformat the articles completely. Jazzi (talk) 13:41, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Looks a hell of a lot less cluttered than the current box, and I think that it does have the necessities. I feel it'll work out just fine. Wattz2000 13:50, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
w00t, looks awesome! Total agreement from my side with the upper two points. Chaos 01:01, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
With approval from two admins and Eyes (in the Staff Skype group) I'm going to go ahead and change this and start implementing it. Jazzi (talk) 21:56, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
I like how it looks, but I don't think we have to make it separate from Template:Episode, with a little modification, we could skip the need to edit all of the pages by adding the two templates' coding together. Plus it would take out all of the unneeded fields that are in Template:Anime, such as background, border and light color, which seems to do the same thing as border. – Crimsonnavy T  S  00:34, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
See here, by just combining the two templates, the only thing that would need adding would be epcode, the rest would be filled in by the fields already on the page. – Crimsonnavy T  S  02:02, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
Just an off-topic question... What's up with creating discussions about templates in article talk pages? Wouldn't the forums be more convenient for this, for more visibility? Or even on the template talk page would be more appropriate than on this talk page. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 18:44, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
I'd have to agree with you Ciencia, I'm not really sure why these conversations have been started on article talk pages either. – Crimsonnavy T  S  17:03, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

(Reset indent) I started them on the talk pages because I had made the templates and was then going to go through and add them and then remembered discussion. Jazzi (talk) 17:30, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Anyone have any comments on the modifications I suggested? – Crimsonnavy T  S  22:48, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
I'm fine with it, but I'm also wondering how the color scheme for the templates are devised. chaos 10:46, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
We don't really need modifications seeing as it was already approved. The colors were going to stay grey for all seasons so that it wouldn't be confusing. The colors would be consistent throughout all seasons, making it nice and clean. The modifications are nice, but not needed. If people can't copy the information from the previous template and place it on the current page, then that's their problem. Jazzi (talk) 18:46, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
The colors are changed based on the season entered and the season templates handle the rest. My problem is that the template wasn't improved like the discussion title suggests, Updating Template:Episode, it was replaced. The colors can be removed, but I really think we should incorporate the changes into the older template since that was what I thought we were doing and I don't think I can really support a whole new template with a somewhat misnamed title. – Crimsonnavy T  S  00:40, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
Is anyone opposed to me adding my changes to Template:Episode? With my modifications, the only thing that would need to be done would to add the epcode field and we would be wasting time editing 500+ episodes if we used Template:Anime. Also, this conversation should have been made on the template talk page or a forum like Ciencia said, I didn't see this conversation until it had been approved. – Crimsonnavy T  S  17:32, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

(Reset indent) I'm opposed to it. And yes, I'm aware that it should've been on the template talk/forum but it was a spur of a moment thing. And technically, we'd be wasting the same amount of time by having to add the epcode into the rest of the articles. Template:Anime will actually allow people to learn how to pipe link, size images, properly link, and have hover text. Not to mention it was already approved. Jazzi (talk) 18:16, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

What I am saying is that we wouldn't have to go through pages if we just updated the template instead of replacing it, the only thing that would need adding would be epcode, without it, the navigation appears as AG045 ← {{{epcode}}} → AG047 and one of the sections has {{{epcode}}}. With replacing it, we have multiple templates at once that have the same purpose until we have all 526 pages changed over. I thought the point of have templates was to make editing easier and remove redundant coding. Also, to me, 4 users and a little more than a day is not a good enough consensus to decide on something that will involve editing 11% of the wiki. – Crimsonnavy T  S  19:09, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
You came into the conversation seventeen days after the approval was made. At that point, it was already approved. If you wanted the modifications put through, you could've done so sixteen days earlier. But at this point, the community, of five users at that time, decided that we were going to use Template:Anime. And last I checked, the purpose was to edit wikis. Jazzi (talk) 20:49, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
I think Jazzi's way of trying to teach users how editing and working with templates is, I think her way is a great way to go. We don't have help pages anymore (as far as I know), nor do we have many veteran users who already know the coding. It may seem redundant, but it is in no way pointless. There's not that many users around here to go about a real wiki-wide consensus. : \ I feel maybe another voice or so may help the situation, though. And, I'm sure we can find some way to edit more than a tenth of the wiki, it can't be that long. Wattz2000 20:53, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
Well, like I said, I didn't even see this conversation until after it was approved, when you guys started adding it to pages. You seem to be missing my point, it isn't very organized to have two templates that do the same thing. I don't see why we can't just update the already existing one and I'm sure there is a better way to teach new users on how to edit pages than relying on them using templates, which in my experience, some new users don't even know how to use. I've had to help users in past just to put simple user templates on their user pages because they didn't know how put them on pages. I mean, I didn't even know how to mark a page for deletion using a template until an admin told me how. – Crimsonnavy T  S  21:32, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
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